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Stroud's Judicial Dictionary of Words and Phrases

PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 5:59 pm
by Zaniwhoop
geebee wrote:
Wolf wrote:
So...lets make it easy..WHAT DICTIONARY DO COURTS USE for understanding what "legal" documents actually mean ?


Stroud's Judicial Dictionary of Words and Phrases generally.


Prices so far, that my wife has found on the net vary between £42,000 and £75 for the 7th and 7th revised editions, which I gather is the latest. Does anyone think they are trying to price it out of the reach of the average member of public?

Re: Stroud's Judicial Dictionary of Words and Phrases

PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 6:18 pm
by huntingross
Without being too unkind, it isn't doing much good to the one's who can afford it.

Re: Stroud's Judicial Dictionary of Words and Phrases

PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 6:21 pm
by jonboy
Thats outrageous, I thought Black's was overpriced :cry: Might see if it's on limewire

Re: Stroud's Judicial Dictionary of Words and Phrases

PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 7:09 pm
by Wolf
Law dictionaries
There are different types of legal dictionaries: the explanatory, specialised, and the interpretive.

A. Explanatory dictionaries. These give explanations of legal words and are used the same way ordinary dictionaries are used. e.g.
1. Jowitt's Dictionary of English Law.
2. Mozley & Whiteley's Law Dictionary.
3. Osborn's Concise Law Dictionary.
4. Curzon, L.B. Dictionary of Law.

B. There are also specialised works, e.g.:

1. Lawyers’ Latin.
2. Baker, J.H. Manual of Law French.
3. Le Docte, E. Legal Dictionary in Four Languages.
4. James, S. A Dictionary of Taxation.
C. Interpretive dictionaries. List words or phrases that have been defined by the courts or in legislation, e.g.:
1. Stroud's Judicial Dictionary of Words and Phrases.
2. Words and Phrases Legally Defined.

Judicial definitions can also be traced by looking under the heading "Words and Phrases" in the indexes to law reports, digests, etc.

Re: Stroud's Judicial Dictionary of Words and Phrases

PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 9:39 pm
by Wolf
V

Would be pleased to know if you have detailed knowledge about uk court law dictionaries.

Re: Stroud's Judicial Dictionary of Words and Phrases

PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 9:42 pm
by jonboy
send a FOI request to the law society :8-):

done it. here FOI Request :grin:

Re: Stroud's Judicial Dictionary of Words and Phrases

PostPosted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 6:26 pm
by jonboy
They replied bloody quickly, and with a pisstake of an answer Law Society response How can the law society not know this? Are they for real? :grr:

Re: Stroud's Judicial Dictionary of Words and Phrases

PostPosted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 9:44 pm
by Zaniwhoop
jonboy wrote: How can the law society not know this?
I think we can be fairly sure they know this jonboy, and are just trying to avoid the issue. Question is what can we do now? I suppose we could somehow prove they do know, but as it says they are not really included under the FOI, however, it would make their voluntary openness look like the sham that it allegedly is. Surely a majority of their members must be using the same dictionary in the courtrooms, or maybe we should be asking HMRC rather than the Law Society. :thinks:

Re: Stroud's Judicial Dictionary of Words and Phrases

PostPosted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 9:57 pm
by jonboy
Or the ministry of 'justice' ?? :thinks: