My perspective of Ukraine

My perspective of Ukraine

Postby Freeman Stephen » Sat Mar 01, 2014 8:33 pm

I haven't seen any analysts who perceive ukraine as I do. Given that most are russian, european or american influenced, this is no surprise.

I dont believe the heart of the revolution is eu integration nor opposed specifically to russian subjugation but all foreign subjugation including the eu, the us and the rf - all of which are franchises of a global elite who now seek to saturate the cultural landscape with the idea that anything is happening in ukraine other than a plebicite lead by people who think that the ukranian government should have ukrainian interests at heart rather than interests of some foreign power elite installing puppet presidents and prime ministers.

Pravyy Sector is the centre of the revolution, being responsible not only for the self defence militia which prevented the now apologetic police from clearing "occupy kiev" but were also the front line which stormed the parliament, the presidential palace and government buildings in major cities throughout ukraine.

Pravyy Sector are not to be confused with Svoboda which although similarly pro ukraine and anti imperialist, they express nationalism in the racist sense of nazi exclusionism which is a far cry from the pravyy sector mentality of including all who support a truly independent ukraine to be part of the new ukraine which is neither subject to russia nor the eu and with the infinite cash a state has at its disposal, need not be subjugated by the banksters either though this does not stop the offers of loans flowing in.

The globalist media portrays pravyy in the same breath as svoboda but pravyy is no more extreme than any other so called democracy. Elections will be held etcetera but just like in the ukvthe us or anywhere else, its rhe agenda of the true powers which will be rolled out no matter what the people want.

If the revolution is successful then it will be no different for ukraine but unlike the rest of the world, the agenda will be set by ukrainians for ukrainians but success is by no means a sure thing as pravyy website is down post coup as moderate vanity filled smiley people take the rolls that pravyy members have died to ensure remain rolls for ukrainian humans rather than foreign puppets.


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Re: My perspective of Ukraine

Postby Freeman Stephen » Sun Mar 02, 2014 10:05 pm

Sound familiar?

(Excerpt from a pravyy sector website page on ukraines 21st century revolution - via google translate)

Analyze enemy fronts and drivers enemies of the Ukrainian nation.

The first anti-Ukrainian Front - inside. Explore PA "Trident" them. Bandera Ivanyshyn Basil gave him a clear, descriptive title: internal occupation regime. We, Ukrainian nationalists interpret it as "internal occupation - is a form of slavery, when the people is under zlovorozhoyu authorities are not foreign invaders and anti-people and anti-national internal forces that minimize the political rights of indigenous nation (almost 80% population), capture and use exclusively in their own interests the state mechanism, finance, economics, information space of the country, trying to artificially divide and demoralize, and destroy denationalize them enslaved nation to prevent its rallying under the banner of the national idea of ​​the liberation struggle and its in fact, the national state and the people.

In Ukraine, the domestic occupation engaged former Moscow invaders and colonizers, Moscow fifth column in the form of various "red" and "center-left" parties, the fifth column of Western demoliberalizmu in a variety of "centrist", "center-right", "democracy", " national-democratic "and even" too nationalistic "organizations, and they all serve the main robber and usurper of power - the foreign and cosmopolitan transnational oligarchic capital criminal origin."

This mode is the same to internal occupation force that has eighteen years at the blue and yellow national flags spends his anti-national actions that lead to a radical reduction in the number of Ukrainian in Ukraine, denationalization, obezduhovlennya, social stratification of our society, our mass settlement areas "legal" and illegal immigrants; pacification consciousness Cossack descendants, destruction of base resistible force of the nation.

The essence of internal occupation regime in its unprincipled and criminality. This mode of strangers, thieves and "us"-thieves, for which Ukraine and Ukrainian - the object of the robbery. A steal from us: eighteen years, this process continues, and the number of those who wish to profit at the expense of Ukrainian resources is not decreasing, but rather increasing every year. One has only to look at the Ukrainian nouveaux riches, to make sure the immensity of Ukrainian wealth - wealth of these "masters" and "Pan" increases in direct proportion to the general impoverishment of the indigenous people and the vast majority of minorities. Defining "idea" for all of them, regardless of party affiliation, are rich at any cost


Ukraine has suffered under the Soviet Union, only to become "independent" under a russian controlled "internal occupation". Right now russian leaning groups form part of the so called opposition while ukranian leaning groups are tarred with the same brush as those groups who are "too nationalistic" serving more to discredit ukranianism than advance it.

Its like theres a huge distinction between four groups:
1. Pro russians - like sevestapol
2. Ukranians upholding russian domination - tymoshenko et al
3. Pro ukranians - pravyy sector
4. Spectacular nazis - svoboda

By spectacular I mean they act almost as if they want everyone to hate them for their divisive ideology. At the same time the line between pravyy and svoboda is blurred by both the east and west while everyone focusses on "non extremists" who will ultimately render unto russia.

Its a bit like the role bnp play while the lines are blurred between euroskeptics and racists.

The real question that ukraine raises given its half hearted orange revolution which saw it continue to be dominated by russia is this - does political dialogue EVER solve anything and if violence NEVER solves anything then why does every state owe its formation to a revolution and why do their extant forces continue to weild a virtual monopoly on violence?

What I see in ukraine are people who have killed a murderous king imposed on them from without. Potentially a new state will be born from this act of conception happening right now but the corrupt empire which surrounds it would like to strangle it, corrupt it or both.
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