Why is UK government a CORPORATION? Proof?

Re: Why is UK government a CORPORATION? Proof?

Postby kevin » Mon Nov 30, 2009 10:01 pm

Welcome to the City of London Corporation
Contact details

Address:
City of London, Guildhall, PO Box 270, London, EC2P 2EJ 020 7606 3030
Email:
pro@cityoflondon.gov.uk

http://www.cityoflondon.gov.uk/Corporation

The Housing Corporation
The Housing Corporation is the government agency that funds new affordable homes and regulates housing associations in England.

Contact us on 0845 230 7000 or by email.


For the first time in the Housing Corporation's history, a social housing funding agreement has been signed between an Arms Length Management Organisation (ALMO) and the Corporation. Stockport Homes has received £1.02 million from the Corporation to fund 17 new homes.

http://www.housingcorp.gov.uk/cfg/server/show/ConWebDoc.16159/changeNav/431

http://www.housingcorp.gov.uk/index.php
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Re: Why is UK government a CORPORATION? Proof?

Postby kevin » Mon Nov 30, 2009 10:29 pm

The Shareholder Executive

Government Owned Business Framework
Legal Form

The Shareholder Executive portfolio contains a number of different types of business operating under different frameworks. There are four principal frameworks in use in the portfolio:

* Companies Act Companies: These companies have the same standard formal governance framework as private sector companies and are required to report to the same standards. The government has a range of shareholding percentages from 100% down to 33%.

* Statutory Corporations: These corporations are formed under specific legislation which, in the main, replicates the Companies Act.

* Limited Liability Partnerships: LLPs share many of the features of a normal partnership, but offer reduced personal responsibility for business debts.

* Trading Funds: These are executive agencies of government that, under the Trading Funds Act 1973, are allowed to net off their revenues against costs.


http://www.shareholderexecutive.gov.uk/framework.asp

Portfolio of businesses

The Shareholder Executive currently manages a portfolio of 29 businesses, with a combined turnover of around £21 billion. It either advises Ministers directly (Executive) or advises shareholder teams in the respective Departments (Advisory).


http://www.shareholderexecutive.gov.uk/portfolio/index.asp

Department for Business, Innovation and Skills

* Export Credits Guarantee Department (ECGD)
Shareholder Executive contact: Simon Rankin

* Post Office Ltd
Shareholder Executive contact: Oliver Griffiths

* Royal Mail Group plc
Shareholder Executive contact: Marc Middleton

* United Kingdom Atomic Energy Authority (UKAEA)
Shareholder Executive contact: Gerard Conway


Department for Communities and Local Government

* Ordnance Survey
Shareholder Executive contact: Charlie Villar

* QEII Conference Centre
Shareholder Executive contact: Mark Boyle


Department for Culture, Media and Sport

* Channel 4
Shareholder Executive contact: Charlie Villar

* The Tote
Shareholder Executive contact: Mark Boyle


Department for International Development

* Actis Capital LLP
Shareholder Executive contact: Gerard Conway

* CDC Group plc
Shareholder Executive contact: Ruth Hannant


Department for Regional Development (Northern Ireland)

* Northern Ireland Water
Shareholder Executive contact: Tim Martin


Department for the Environment, Food and Rural Affairs

* British Waterways Authority
Shareholder Executive contact: Peter Shortt

* Covent Garden Market Authority
Shareholder Executive contact: Peter Shortt


Department for Transport

* NATS
Shareholder Executive contact:


Department for Work and Pensions

* Working Links Limited
Shareholder Executive contact: Michael Harrison


Department of Energy and Climate Change

* British Energy plc
Shareholder Executive contact: Richard Nourse
HMG has certain financial interests in British Energy plc but no shares

* BNFL plc
Shareholder Executive contact: Richard Nourse

* Nuclear Decommissioning Authority
Shareholder Executive contact: Elisabeth Cuthbertson

* National Nuclear Laboratory
Shareholder Executive contact: Richard Ramsay

* Urenco
Shareholder Executive contact: Richard Nourse


HM Treasury

* Bradford and Bingley
Shareholder Executive contact: Charlie Villar

* Northern Rock
Shareholder Executive contact: Charlie Villar

* Partnerships UK
Shareholder Executive contact: Stephen Lovegrove

* Royal Mint
Shareholder Executive contact: Charlie Villar


Home Office

* Forensic Science Service
Shareholder Executive contact: Mark Boyle


Ministry of Defence

* DSG
Shareholder Executive contact: Peter Shortt

* Defence Science and Technology Laboratory (Dstl)
Shareholder Executive contact: Peter Shortt

* Met Office
Shareholder Executive contact: Peter Shortt

* UK Hydrographic Office
Shareholder Executive contact: Peter Shortt


Scottish Government

* Scottish Water
Shareholder Executive contact: Tim Martin
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Re: Why is UK government a CORPORATION? Proof?

Postby kevin » Mon Nov 30, 2009 10:53 pm

Local Government, Planning and Land Act 1980 (c. 65)
Main body
Part XVI Urban Development
Urban development corporations

3) Subject to sections 137 and 138 below, for the purpose of achieving the object an urban development corporation may—
(a)
acquire, hold, manage, reclaim and dispose of land and other property;
(b)
carry out building and other operations;
(c)
seek to ensure the provision of water, electricity, gas, sewerage and other services;
(d)
carry on any business or undertaking for the purposes of the object; and
(e)
generally do anything necessary or expedient for the purposes of the object or for purposes incidental to those purposes.


http://www.statutelaw.gov.uk/content.aspx?LegType=All+Primary&PageNumber=48&NavFrom=2&parentActiveTextDocId=2263227&ActiveTextDocId=2263390&filesize=5114
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Re: Why is UK government a CORPORATION? Proof?

Postby azad » Tue Dec 01, 2009 9:51 am

In response to cjwood555 :

As you pointed out yourself, the revolution is an exception to natural course of a society, But having said that, I have to underline that those historical events in England did not change the legal structure of the ruling body, but simply replace one with another, and in general, any reformation of a government has been to consolidate the judicial and legality of its fundaments.

In response to Kevin :

I could point out that your remarks do not really refute those issues I discussed in the previous post. At best it shows the modus operandi of the government. But when it comes to legal rights and obligations of a government, it differs radically from any other legal construct / corporation.

I could add a new issue to my previous post, namely, a state (government+ judicial branch) could legally execute ( in many countries)or incarcerate a person, while none other corpoartion has the authority to do so. [Punishment of an individual is deeply rooted in Common law as well as the statutory law.]
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Re: Why is UK government a CORPORATION? Proof?

Postby emmanualgoldstein » Tue Dec 01, 2009 10:34 am

Corporation - a body rationed out.
In addition to wikipedia and legal defintions and social constructs I would like to add the further social construct which is more conceptual than perceptual since it is based on the latin roots of the phrase. It is a body composed of many entities. Perceptually it is a body composed of many human beings. A team having a kick about on a five aside pitch is as much a corporation as a government in this understanding.
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Re: Why is UK government a CORPORATION? Proof?

Postby whistleblower » Sat May 15, 2010 2:23 pm

There are to many matters that each government would wish to obfuscate, but you will find the answer to bankruptcy in The plan of the Experts that required the return and amalgamation of the Global Assets. Thus it is only when the tide goes out that you find out who has been swimming naked and the Great Depression ensued. But after a war and fifty years of abuse when the hijack of the assets caused much consternation, they are being now being returned and held in trust for the peoples of the World as intended. The destructive implosion is underway as has happened many times in the past and will usher in a new more equitable system. Who is all the debt owed to well ultimately all of us jointly, its just the other side of the bookkeeping system and zero’s out completely except the interest. We have two legal fictions ALL CAPS & lower case neither of them are truly us, only representations we use to navigate the system, this extends to the legal fictions are also Countries.
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Re: Why is UK government a CORPORATION? Proof?

Postby azad » Tue May 18, 2010 8:49 am

You have pointed out very good and valid issues, but still failed to tackle the main problematic issue, namely if a GOVERNMENT= (identical) Any CORPORATION. The reason that I took bankruptcy as an example is because the consequences for both legal fictive structures are not the same. While a corporation could at worst be dismantle, the government could not (read previous posts). Of course I know that national governments- instrument or not -could go bankrupt, but there is no mechanism that forces them legally to dismantle. I am sure that many are aware that parallel power organizations (Blderberg, CFR, TR ,..) try to diminish and eventually eliminate the roll of the national governments, which creates an even more horrific dilemma. The question is if we have to defend these weak and poor instruments of national sovereignty (watch Adrian Salbuchi –YouTube) at the end rather facing the worse alternative namely WORLD GOVERNMENT. I am personally for a RBE (a realistic resource based economy relying heavily on thermo-economics) which could and should replace the current power structures (be it democratically chosen or not).
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Re: Why is UK government a CORPORATION? Proof?

Postby enegiss » Tue May 18, 2010 9:41 am

hi azad, i must say this has been a really interesting thread, and i personally thank you for your contribution, marvelous to read and some truly great points to ponder, within my scope of intellect ime sure i will be going over this discussion quite a few times before i feel confident enough to add, if ever. thanks all. peace
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Re: Why is UK government a CORPORATION? Proof?

Postby azad » Sat Dec 18, 2010 12:01 pm

TIPPING POINT: A financial collapse could be closer than ever
Friday, December 17, 2010
http://www.stansberryresearch.com/pub/pwa/index.asp
The financial collapse that so many of US citizens have been anticipating is seemingly closer than ever. Over the past several weeks, there have been a host of ominous signs for the U.S. economy.
Yields on U.S. Treasury’s have moved up rapidly and Moody's [1]is publicly warning that it may have to cut the rating on U.S. government debt soon. Mortgage rates are also moving up aggressively. The euro and the U.S. dollar both look incredibly shaky. Jobs continue to be shipped out of the United States at a blistering pace as US politicians stand by and do nothing. Confidence in U.S. government debt around the globe continues to decline. State and local governments that are drowning in debt across the United States are savagely cutting back on even essential social services and are coming up with increasingly "creative" ways of getting more money out of all of Citizens. Meanwhile, tremor after tremor continues to strike the world financial system.
So does this mean that US has almost reached a tipping point? Is the world on the verge of a major financial collapse?
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[1]Moody's Corporation (NYSE: MCO) is the holding company for Moody's Analytics and Moody's Investors Service, a Credit rating agency which performs international financial research and analysis on commercial and government entities. The company also ranks the credit-worthiness of borrowers using a standardized ratings scale. The company has a 40% share in the world credit rating market, as does its main rival, Standard & Poor's.
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Re: Why is UK government a CORPORATION? Proof?

Postby enegiss » Sat Dec 18, 2010 1:09 pm

could be, peace
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