Property charge

[eflaw]

Does anybody have any experience with placing a charge against a debtors property/land in connection with commercial lien?

Peace.

[Prajna]

Cool 1st post, eflaw. I bet nobody else has ever had the courage to just dive on in with a question without even introducing themselves. I guess it is because most here consider this collection of rebels as a kind of community and we help each other with the best (albeit occasionally faliable) ideas, recollection and pointers we know. Sadly I'm not one to help you with this one. I could trot out the few things I have run across regarding liens in order to appear errudite but really you want someone who has studied them at length and, even better, had success in monetising them - that seems to be where people have been falling down.

Anyway, who are ya stripping of their assets and for what cause? If you answer CaMoron and his buddies then I'll dedicate me next few weeks to ensuring you nail the bastards. If it is your ex 'cause you're still pissed off with her and think you're gonna make sure she get's (or, as the case may be, loses) then fuck it, no point asking me for help.

Namaste

[treeman]

Well stated learned brother.

[eflaw]

Few months ago I had a visit of two thugs calling themselves Croydon County Court Bailiffs working for Task Enforcement (stealing from peaple for TFL)
with demand of payment of £200 for unpaid penalty. To cut the long story short, they refused to identify themselves and show me the warrant.
I refused to pay so they inflated the bill to £700. I refused to pay. They called a lorry and stole my car. I made a formal complaint, been
to police explaining that the car does not belongs to me but family trust. As you may expect they don't gonna hurt each other. I did affidavit
process and assessed my fees and damages and in the meantime I managed to remove the 'warrant' as void ab initio and get my car back!
After that I could peacefully enjoy my property and forgot about stressful time to get my car back, which was particularly difficult for my family.
And perhaps I wanted to forget about it because I don't really see a way to enforce my charges. But on the other hand if I'm not enforcing it
I'm letting them to go away with their scam.
So I read this nice article about liens http://lien.fmotl.com/ and I think that could be a way move forward. The lien process is quite simple,
what I am not sure about is public record debt entry e.g. property charge. It looks easy in US, but in UK they try to guard every door.
I thought maybe to ask may some of you guys who might have some experience you can share that it would be easier to get started.

Peace.

[Prajna]

Well I know that the govt is in the process of changing, or has recently changed, the law on registering charges, making it possible for any Tom, Dick, or Harry (probably so long as they are a public servant or corporation) to register a charge against your property even on unsecured debts, fines etc. What's sauce for the goose, according to the maxim, is supposed to be likewise suitable for the gander. Quite what the process is, I can't recall but it may help to look up the Land Registry, since I woulda thought it would be done via them.

Having said all that, from what (little) I understand of the lien process, the idea is that you perfect the lien and then take it to the court for enforcement (that's the bit many forget). You then get the full power of the court to take care of the niceties like putting a charge on their property or flaying them in public.

You may be able to enlist some wisdom from Musashi on here: he has looked deep into this gloopy business. If you do then please be extraordinarily polite and appreciative to him because he is a valuable member here and we like him to feel he is respected and appreciated.

Namaste