by Dreadlock » Sat Aug 08, 2015 3:54 am
People seem to think that England is in the UK. It isn't.
England IS in the UK geographical area, but for statutory matters the UK is a corporation. As such it is totally imaginary and exists only on paper and in the minds of man. You see, geographical areas couldn't care less about
statutes. Corporations take them very seriously.
Clearly a real thing like land, Eng-land, cannot exist within a fiction such as the UK.
England is a well defined geographical region governed by a constitutional monarchy and English parliament under the Law of the Land.
The UK is a state active all over the world and unrestricted by geography. It is governed by the UK parliament, the Crown Corporation and the judiciary. These represent the legislative, executive and judicial branches of government respectively. All three are headed by the same man or woman albeit acting in three different capacities - the Queen (or king)in Parliament, the sole shareholder and the head of the judiciary.*
Here is the kicker:
UK citizens, while obviously in UK jurisdiction, are taught to belive that the UK includes England, Scotland and Wales etc. The English people therefore expect English law and justice to prevail in the UK when in England.
Well you can't be in both the UK and England! Sure, you can be in the geographical region of England and in the corporate UK. But you cannot be in England as governed by a constitutional monarchy AND in the UK under a
corporate sole. NO MAN CAN HAVE TWO MASTERS!! Can you work for Tescos and Asda simultaneously???
Obviously if the UK government told the truth, that English people aren't actually in England, there would be hell to pay. So they lie, pay lip service to English law and the constitution and then ignore it whenever they
can. In doing so they are not breaking English law or violating the constitution because England is an entirely separate jurisdiction to the UK and its laws are not relevant to the UK.
It follows that the English constitution has nothing to do with the UK. The UK did not even exist when much of the English constitution was created!
When you go into a UK court and threaten to sieze it under Magna Carta you are taking the law from one jurisdiction, England, and attempting to apply it to another, the UK. Now the government can hardly tell the truth can they? So they just ignore their unruly citizens and continue in accordance with their own rules - leaving constitutionalists bewildered and angry at having, from their perspecitve, their laws, customs and traditions trampled on. The fact is that this has not happened because they were never in the correct jurisdiction to avail themselves of those laws in the first place.
* Edited for accuracy 28/8/15
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Dreadlock on Fri Aug 28, 2015 8:19 pm, edited 1 time in total.