The Children's Index

Re: The Children's Index

Postby holy vehm » Wed Oct 17, 2012 8:57 am

Nice find. Kind off runs alongside the SSP (safer schools policing) i came across. Multi agency.

I will mention this to the school governors when i meet with them and see about getting access to this info.

All schools (that i know of) have this thing called a school - parent - child agreement called the home school agreement and all parents and children are asked/told to sign it.

To me it was nothing more than a contract and one that was not signed.

Is it things like this, sneaky contracts wrapped up in fluffy words like home school agreements that allow this data collection.

It gets more sinister by the day.
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Re: The Children's Index

Postby musashi » Wed Oct 17, 2012 1:57 pm

This is just a thin, thin layer from the strata of the history of the Social Services in Britain. Every British parent and child should have cause for concern.

Lisa Chrsitensen, was connected by marriage to the Angry Brigade one of whose members was Angela Mason, 1st Chief exec of Stonewall. Overseer of both Sexual Orientation Regs. Civil Partnerships, founder member and present commissioner of the Equality and Human Rights Commission and present Chair of the Fawcett Society.

A nursery manager accused of shaking babies and forcing them to eat vomit claims she is the victim of a hate campaign by colleagues who disliked the fact she is a lesbian.

Baby P

“Many parents have become concerned that children may be molested, encouraged to become sexually active, or even “recruited” into adopting a homosexual identity and lifestyle. Gay activists dismiss such concerns–in part, by strenuously insisting that there is no connection between homosexuality and the sexual abuse of children.

Huge increase in numbers of children taken into care

Failure of welsh social services

Failure Wakefield Social Services

Failure of Devon magistrates

Failure of Glamorgan social services

Failure of Prison service

Failure of Islington social services
Lord Chris Smith, gay man and sufferer of HIV, was a Labour councillor for Islington Borough for five years, and was chairman of housing from 1981 to 1983. In 1983 he became MP for Islington South and Finsbury. He was the MP Finsbury and Islington, when the following was happening on his watch: Paedophilia was rife in Islington at this time.


John Goldup, the Government’s childcare watchdog has been heavily criticised after appointing to a senior post an official embroiled in a notorious paedophile scandal.
Ofsted has named John Goldup as its social care director – a job which gives him effective control of the protection of youngsters in care homes and nurseries across the UK.
At the time of his appointment, Mr Goldup said: ‘I am absolutely convinced that effective inspection and regulation are the key to driving up improvement.’
But during the Eighties and early Nineties, Mr Goldup was the second most senior figure in the children’s department at Islington Council in North London.

Schools will be penalised if they fail to improve the progress of ‘vulnerable’ groups of pupils such as those who are gay, lesbian, bisexual and transsexual.

A paedophile who was sentenced to 21 years in prison last week has links with a Labour politician who is a senior figure in the judicial system, The Mail on Sunday can reveal.–helped-hide-past.html

Orphanages and children’s homes

Haute de la Garenne
Recently there has been uncovered a terrible story of paedophilia taking place in a children’s home on the island of Jersey that had direct connections with Islington.

The present investigation has had very little help from the Lord Chancellor and Secretary of for Justice, Jack Straw. Up till now Jack Straw has refused to step in.

Harriet Harman has previously said that the absolute rights of individuals like Angela Eagle should not be trumped by cultural values.

A former diplomat, a television presenter and a doctor were among six people found guilty of abusing 32 children at a Portuguese state-run children’s home

Foster homes
Les Cummings An alleged survivor of a horrific catalogue of childhood abuse has been taken on an emotional journey back to the scenes of his ordeal by BBC South’s Inside Out.

The Children’s Index is to be launched in England and Wales in 2008. It is already being ‘trialled’ by 12 local authorities at a cost of £241million.
Ministers say that to protect children from harm, and identify potential criminal offenders, the must gather and scrutinise everything known about Britain’s 12million children and their families.

Greenfield House children’s hostel in Maidenhead, Berkshire.

Judith Reisman who is a world authority on the evil influence of Alfred Kinsey on western European civilisation.

Holland Germany and EU to legalise Paedophilia

Paedophile charter,_Vrijheid_en_Diversiteit

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Re: The Children's Index

Postby musashi » Wed Oct 17, 2012 6:55 pm

Extract from The Huffington Post.

BBC World Affairs Editor John Simpson indicated in his autobiography 13 years ago that he had learned of another BBC luminary who used his popularity to lure children to the studios and abuse them, but he was told off when he tried to investigate the claims.

John Simpson wrote of how he was silenced by a senior journalist when he tried to report claims of abuse

The Sun reports that, in his 1999 book 'Strange Places, Questionable People', Simpson wrote of his days as a cub reporter with the BBC, when he was instructed to write an obituary of the unnamed presenter - who had been one of Corporation's most popular faces until his death in 1967. Simpson wrote that he had been determined to include the allegations and investigate them, until he was told off for being a "stupid, unthinking, ignorant, destructive young idiot" by a senior journalist.

Read more of Simpson's claims in The Sun here...

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Simpson's revelations have come to light as Jimmy Savile's former personal assistant has said the disgraced TV star "thought he was untouchable".

Janet Cope spoke out as it was announced that former High Court judge Dame Janet Smith and ex-Sky News executive Nick Pollard are to lead the BBC's independent reviews stemming from the sex abuse allegations surrounding the late DJ.

"He was a very, very clever man and if he could keep something like that covered up he was even more clever than I gave him credit for. And it bothers me now because we rubbed along together for so many years, getting things done together."

The abuser is said to have been nicknamed "Uncle Dick", apparently.

Saville was also a visitor to the Haut La Garrenne child home where many children were abused.

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Re: The Children's Index

Postby musashi » Wed Oct 17, 2012 7:06 pm

This is an extract from Channel Island Cover Up.

Harriet Harman under attack over bid to water down child pornography law

Harriet Harman’s political judgement has been called into question after it emerged that she once advocated the watering down of child pornography laws.

Harriet Harman's political judgement and ambitions are now in question after she she called on ministers to make sexually explicit photographs or films of children legal unless there was evidence that the subject had been harmed Photo: PA
By Martin Beckford, Social Affairs Correspondent 7:00AM GMT 09 Mar 2009
The Leader of the House of Commons and Minister for Women and Equality, who also sits on a Cabinet committee on young people’s welfare, is being touted as a possible successor to Gordon Brown, .
But she faces fresh criticism from Opposition MPs and campaign groups after The Daily Telegraph obtained documents showing that she called on ministers to make sexually explicit photographs or films of children legal unless there was evidence that the subject had been harmed.
At the time she made the official submission, she was a senior figure in a civil liberties organisation that wanted the age of consent to be lowered to 14 and incest decriminalised. It also defended self-confessed paedophiles in the press and allowed them to attend its meetings.
Last night Tim Loughton, the Shadow Children’s Minister, said: “Clearly there is a serious conflict of interest with the committees she sits on, who might want urgently to clarify her position on the exploitation of children for the sexual gratification of adults.
“It’s a shame that Miss Harman’s zeal for positive discrimination and all things politically correct among adults does not extend to the exploitation of children. Any child who is used for the sexual gratification of adults counts as an abused child and needs protecting.”
Miss Harman, 58, was a newly qualified solicitor when she became legal officer for the National Council for Civil Liberties, now known as Liberty, in 1978. At the time its general secretary was Patricia Hewitt, who went on to become health secretary under Tony Blair.

Among the groups affiliated to NCCL were the Paedophile Information Exchange and Paedophile Action for Liberation, whose members argued openly for the abolition of the age of consent. NCCL complained to the press watchdog about their treatment by tabloid newspapers and said in one article: “We support any organisation that seeks to campaign for anything it wants within the law. They have that right.”

In NCCL’s official response to the Government’s plans to reform sex laws, dubbed a “Lolita’s Charter”, it suggested reducing the age of consent and argued that “childhood sexual experiences, willingly engaged in, with an adult result in no identifiable damage”. It claimed that children can suffer more from having to retell their experiences in court or the press.

Amid growing public concern about adults preying on children, the Protection of Children Bill was put before Parliament in order to tighten the laws on child pornography by banning indecent images of under-16s.

NCCL’s official response, signed by Miss Harman and submitted in April 1978, claimed that the new law could lead to “damaging and absurd prosecutions” and “increase censorship”.

She suggested that a pornographic photo or film of a child should not be considered indecent unless it could be shown that the subject had suffered, and that prosecutors would have to prove harm rather than defendants having to justify themselves.

Her submission states: “Although this harm may be of a somewhat speculative nature, where participation falls short of physical assault, it is none-the-less justifiable to restrain activities by photographer which involve placing children under the age of 14 (or, arguably, 16) in sexual situations.

“We suggest that the term 'indecent’ be qualified as follows: – A photograph or film shall not for this purpose be considered indecent (a) by reason only that the model is in a state of undress (whether complete or partial); (b) unless it is proved or is to be inferred from the photograph or film that the making of the photograph or film might reasonably be expected to have caused the model physical harm or pronounced psychological or emotional disorder.”

It adds: “Our amendment places the onus of proof on the prosecution to show that the child was actually harmed.”

Miss Harman left NCCL in 1982 when she was elected MP for Camberwell and Peckham, by which time several members of PIE had been jailed for conspiracy to corrupt public morals.

A spokesman for Miss Harman said: “She has always opposed child pornography and has never supported PIE and to suggest that she did is untrue and misleading.

“NCCL’s approach to the protection of children’s bill was to argue for clear definitions in the bill to make sure the law was precise so that it was about child protection and not about censorship.”
The spokesman added: “PIE had been excluded from the NCCL before she became legal officer.”
However press cuttings from 1983 make it clear that it was still considered an “affiliate group”.

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Re: The Children's Index

Postby musashi » Wed Oct 17, 2012 7:43 pm

I Googled Channel Island Cover Up and found a very interesting site. There are a couple of videos of Senator Stuart Syvret talking about the police raids on his home, without warrant, seemingly as a result of his activities in exposing corruption in the states of Jersey. Naturally, child abuse is mentioned early on.

Interestingly, he says that it will be impossible to clean the place up until London is forced to do their job properly. Or words to that effect. He has also received death threats. It's a high profile case and may shake some tails in Westminster.

Also on this site is a write up of my earlier claim about Hariot Harman and the paedophile connections throughout her career. You remember, when she said that sex with children should not be a crime and that photos and films of them naked etc should be allowed. It would be up to the prosecution to prove that substantial injury had been done to the child.

Both videos of the Senator can be seen on youtube, and they come recommended - by me, that is, not anyone you can trust, like a lawyer, a doctor or a policeman. :grin:

The site also has a friendly looking lawful rebellion union flag!

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