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Re: Proof that the DVLA own your car

Postby holy vehm » Thu Feb 11, 2010 11:05 am

You have just answered my question.

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Re: Proof that the DVLA own your car

Postby joefree » Thu Feb 11, 2010 11:20 am

Veronica wrote:And that is the bottom line.

(It's ALL about MINDSET ... and NOTHING ELSE)


And that is their biggest fear...... :grin: everyone actually waking up and changing their mindset.

Look at their response to those that try to take control and change their plates - just ask Woody.

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Re: Proof that the DVLA own your car

Postby pitano1 » Thu Feb 11, 2010 8:13 pm

(On a practical note, it may very well be that - in the interim - you may need to place your property out of their grubby reach, of course.

hi v /all.

i agree with every word of your post,and over the last year or so have LIVED as a freeman.

with the knowledge i have been given freely by my freeman bro`s/sisters i have been able to send
all the arseholes packing..police...courts...d.c.a`s...bailiffs,and i would like to thank all freemen/women. yes every one of you.

anyway the point i would like to raise is at the top of this post.
how do we do it ?
is the best way to create a trust ?
put a lien on what ?

the most common problem seems to be the dvla, and if my understanding is correct act as some kind of supergrass..for the policy enforcers, who then come and take your property an squish it.
sorry rambling a bit.

the reason i bring this up..is what happened to pleasuredome [ reespect mon]
who came so close..but he entered their play...ground.

my thoughts..is their anyway of crafting some document/ notice. that will make them back off.
and not have to enter the justus system.?






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Re: Proof that the DVLA own your car

Postby sindakit » Fri Feb 12, 2010 12:54 pm

Lets write our own constitution! :clap:
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Re: Proof that the DVLA own your car

Postby wayne78 » Sat Apr 17, 2010 7:39 pm

So would the above (DVLA owning your car) work if you deregisted your car with the DVLA, would this then stop anyone clamping or towing your car away???.
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Re: Proof that the DVLA own your car

Postby holy vehm » Sat Apr 17, 2010 8:47 pm

wayne78 wrote:So would the above (DVLA owning your car) work if you deregisted your car with the DVLA, would this then stop anyone clamping or towing your car away???.


The problem is getting the authorities to recognise this, mainly the police. They will just nick you and the car and let you argue it out in court.

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Re: Proof that the DVLA own your car

Postby huntingross » Sat Apr 17, 2010 8:53 pm

No deregistrations have worked to my knowledge.
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Re: Proof that the DVLA own your car

Postby Veronica » Sat Apr 17, 2010 9:43 pm

huntingross wrote:No deregistrations have worked to my knowledge.

It is possible to EXPORT it, by filling in the slip on the V5C. Have you tried this?
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Re: Proof that the DVLA own your car

Postby huntingross » Sat Apr 17, 2010 10:10 pm

I was keeping that powder dry V.....this is re 90 minutes.

The dilemma for most people using the Permanent Export route is this :

Is the car leaving the UK
If it does, will it return to the UK for longer than 6 months in any one year, if so it requires to be Re-registered.
For most followers of this forum, that idea would be abhorent
Which brings you to the point at which most would say "fuck em why should I"
So the connundrum is if you don't believe you have to re-register, why did you have to de-register.

Unless the car leaves the UK, the DVLA are likely to say the car was never exported and therefore never de-registered *.....they never assumed that through secession an independent enclave state could be formed, where the car is subject to laws foreign to the UK are in force, and time limited within the UK is assured to be less than 6 months.

* This arguement is the same for renouncing citizenship....if you do not have another country within 6 months, you are re-absorbed.
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Re: Proof that the DVLA own your car

Postby Veronica » Sat Apr 17, 2010 10:19 pm

You keep using the words "register" and "de-register".

I used the word "export".

Now ... obviously ... if one exports a car, then the DVLA will be FORCED to de-register it. No?

BUT THAT'S NOT -YOU- DE-REGISTERING IT ... it is THEM. No?

Now ... after 6 months they SAY they will chase you to RE-REGISTER.

How?

What ... send you a letter? A letter to who? To the "Last Registered Keeper"?

Who is that?

You?

Why is it you?

What stopped you EXPORTING it ... and selling it?

How about "RETURN TO SENDER (NOTHING TO DO WITH ME)" ... did we forget about that?

Right. You get stopped. And the car is still EXPORTED ... because it hasn't been RE-REGISTERED ... and they have no address for the "NEW REGISTERED KEEPER"

Do they?

Catch my drift? As in "think Sovereign"?

Yes ... I know about those 90 minutes. But to win they would have to answer the sort of questions above.

"Unless the car leaves the UK ..." ... and they can prove it DIDN'T? They are going to waste all that much time, looking for needles in haystacks, to prove they could not find the needle in any one of them? Are they?

We are dealing with wankers, HG ... never forget that.

They SAY a lot of things. But much of what they DO, they fuck up anyway. (You know ... like impounding a car ... as if it was the fault of the car ... that sort of thing)
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